JP Group Engine Compartment Foam Seal (Tinware to Body) | VW Bus 1972–1979 & Type 4 411/412 | OE 411 813 225 (JP-8510-0)
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JP Group Engine Compartment Foam Seal (Tinware to Body) | VW Bus 1972–1979 & Type 4 411/412 | OE 411 813 225 (JP-8510-0)
Short answer: JP Group JP-8510-0 is the thick foam seal that closes the gap between the engine tinware and the body around the engine bay of the 1972–1979 VW Bay Window Bus and Pickup, and the 1971–1974 VW 411/412. It keeps hot engine air from being drawn back into the cooling fan. It replaces OE 411 813 225, JP Group reference 8185500500. Sold each.
Part numbers: JP-8510-0 · OE 411 813 225 · JP Group 8185500500 · UPC 707924528459
Fitment
| Years | Vehicle | Notes |
|---|---|---|
| 1972–1979 | VW Bus (Bay Window), all bodies incl. Westfalia | Rear engine bay. EMPI fitment |
| 1972–1974 | VW Bus Pickup | EMPI fitment |
| 1971–1973 | VW 411 | EMPI fitment |
| 1973–1974 | VW 412 | EMPI fitment |
| 1968–1971 | Early Bay Window Bus | Does not fit: uses the rubber engine bay seal |
| Any | Beetle, Karmann Ghia, Type 3 | Does not fit |
Fitment comes from EMPI, the US distributor for JP Group, checked against the OE number. Heritage Parts Centre and Mid America Motorworks list the same 411 813 225 foam seal for the 1972–1979 Bus, one seal per engine.
Specifications
| Spec | Detail |
|---|---|
| Brand | JP Group (Denmark), distributed by EMPI |
| Part number | JP-8510-0 |
| OE reference | 411 813 225 |
| JP Group reference | 8185500500 |
| UPC | 707924528459 |
| Material | Foam |
| Location | Engine tinware to body, rear engine bay |
| Sold as | Each (one per engine) |
| Shipping weight | About 1.5 lb (estimate) |
| Carton | About 14 x 12 x 6 in (estimate) |
| Condition | New |
What's Included
- One engine compartment foam seal
Not Included
- Engine tinware
- Adhesive
- Engine lid seal
Why It Matters
On a 1972-on Bus the cooling fan pulls air from the engine bay. The foam seal keeps the hot air that has just passed over the cylinders and the exhaust under the van from being drawn back up and through the fan. When the foam crumbles or goes missing, the engine breathes its own hot air and road dirt, and head temperatures rise. On a Type 4 engine that already runs hot, this cheap seal is one of the first things to check when temperatures climb.
JP Group is a Danish maker of replacement parts for classic Volkswagens and Porsches, sold under the JP Group, Dansk and Classic names, with EMPI as its US distributor. Washburn's Metal in Orange, California lists each JP part with its VW OE number and JP Group reference so you can check it against your parts book before you order.
Installation Notes
- The seal is easiest to fit with the engine out, but it can be done with the engine in by working from below.
- Scrape off every bit of the old foam and clean the tinware edge.
- Fit the seal around the tinware so it compresses against the body when the engine is in place, with no gaps at the corners.
- Check from below with a light that the seal touches the body all the way round.
Frequently Asked Questions
Does this fit my 1976 Westfalia?
Yes. EMPI lists the 1972–1979 Bus.
Does it fit my 1970 Bus?
No. Early Bay buses use a rubber seal.
Does it fit a 411 or 412?
Yes. EMPI lists the 1971–1973 411 and 1973–1974 412.
Is this the same as OE 411 813 225?
Yes. EMPI lists JP-8510-0 against 411 813 225.
How many do I need?
One per engine.
Is it new?
Yes, new JP Group.
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